
The HBO card on Saturday September 27, 2008 was, by a realfightfan's standards, nothing more or less than a chance to watch some boxers whose names we know. No belts at stake, no surprises likely. That said, there was no way I was passing it up because there's seems to have been so little to cheer about in the last few months. Having seen Calzaghe make a date with Roy Jones is a yawner and I can't sufficiently express my disappointment at Kelly Pavlik having set a fight with Bernard Hopkins. What a waste of time. All of that said, in truth I have only myself to blame for not having seen any good recent fights, because there was at least one...and I missed it because I didn't buy the pay-per-view of the Forrest/Mora rematch that apparently set all things right with the world. My own fault. To the card...
Stevie "two pound" Forbes has now apparently become the newest opponent for the elite and rising elite at 154. He's got a championship pedigree (safely twenty pounds south) and is committed but featherfisted. Andre Berto (22-0 coming in) was looking for a name to add to his resume. For the first few rounds, it looked like he was in a lot deeper than his camp had anticipated. Stevie countered well and his speed looked comparable to the lightning quick, but habitually inaccurate Berto. Even after the HBO team seemed to think Berto had taken control in the middle rounds, I didn't think Berto was landing almost any of his punches. He was also clinching and holding with his arms around Forbes' arms way too much considering that he was the faster, younger and stronger fighter. I had the fight for Forbes, four rounds to two, at the end of the sixth because he was counterpunching more cleanly and while Berto would throw combinations in lightning flurries, almost no punches in these barrages were landing. The crowd would ooh and aah, but Forbes was slipping, blocking and ducking, making Berto ineffective.
However, whether it was Berto's pressure, his greater strength (their physiques are a contrast, with Berto's bulging muscles and Forbes' sleek and undersized...for the weight...physique) or the opponent mentality that has begun to dog Forbes at least since the Delahoya fight, Forbes seemed to stop trying to win. Turning in a sparring partner's performance the last six rounds, Forbes seemed to go into survival mode and phone it in until the final bell. In this space, I decried the HBO announcing team after the Delahoya fight for calling Forbes out for his sparring partner mentality. Interestingly, they did it far less in this bout, but he deserved it more...at least after the sixth. At fight's end, I had it 116-112 and the official scorers had it unanimously 118-109, 118-109 and 116-111, all for Berto.
Where does Berto go from here? Well, Antonio Margarito was in the audience. If the Berto camp thinks he's ready for Margarito, I think they have another thing coming. By grabbing and fighting in spurts, as I've seen him do before, Berto is used to getting a chance not only to admire his work after his dramatic (but too often ineffectual) flurries, but to clinch and hold and catch his breath. Margarito will never allow that and is natural enough at the weight and aggressive enough to shoulder him off and rain down blows. If the Margarito who fought Cintron and Cotto shows up, Berto doesn't last six rounds. Jumping from Forbes to Margarito is a quantum leap to the highest echelon of the division. That said, if they make that fight I'll tune in...and while I'm virtually certain it ends badly for Berto...that's why they make 'em fight.
If I'm Berto's camp, I'd definitely go in next against a slightly lesser elite level fighter, if they're looking to step up. Of course, the problem for Berto is that there are so many elite level fighters in his division that every one is risky. Cintron? risky as heck...he can knock the iffy-chinned Berto out with one punch. Paul Williams? he will outwork Berto and if he doesn't get him in trouble, he'll outpoint him because Berto won't get his between-flurry rests. Miguel Cotto? If Cotto's spirit rebounds after being handed his first loss by Margarito, Cotto is the superior boxer with the heavier hands, notwithstanding Berto's speed advantage. Mosley? That's probably the guy I'd pick because while Shane still has some game at age 37 (see below), he's not as dangerous as he used to be and he's always seemed blown up to make this weight. He's a tough fight and a good win to add (by decision, probably), but not a great risk. But, as Shane implied after his own fight...he doesn't need Berto...unless he can't find anyone else to fight. That said, I bet Margarito was there not to watch Berto...but to get a fight with Sugar Shane.
To the main event. For a fight that started so promisingly and ended so satisfyingly, HBO commentator Larry Merchant's statement in round ten was fair: that is was a grueling rather than an entertaining fight. After Mayorga thrilled with his trademark wild headhunting in the opening frame, he lapsed into a hugging, clutching, complaining parody of his best days while Mosley struggled to time him and land between Mayorga's occasional bombs. With Mayorga ten pounds heavier on fight night, even when he had the fight well in hand, Mosley struggled to back Mayorga up. Meanwhile, the bullying wild tactics that elevated Mayorga to the stage in his career where he apparently remains the knockout opponent of choice for the aging elite made for a difficult fight to watch. Few punches land and when they do, we all hope they will chop Mayorga down. The sixth was almost a 10-8 round because this was clearly knockout territory for Mayorga (to BE knocked out). This is approximately when Delahoya took him out and apparently this is about where his aging elite level opponents figure him out and begin to tattoo him at will. Mosley indeed punched him cleanly in this head repeatedly in the last minute of the round and although he seemed to put him in trouble, he didn't put him down.
Interestingly, Mayorga seemed emboldened by the fact that he didn't get knocked out and had something of a resurgence in the following round, raising his arms triumphantly, apparently celebrating that he was still in the ring. The fight remained a mostly ugly hugfest until Mosley caught up to Mayorga with almost no time left in the 11th. I suspect that Mayorga, slowed from some clean shots (but not as many as you'd think) and mostly out of gas, just felt he'd put in a long enough night and went down. Don't get me wrong...Mosley KO'd him, but Mayorga didn't struggle to get up, instead dropping his head back to the mat with one second left in the round, forcing the referee to wave the fight off. When a fighter doesn't try to beat the bell, he ought to be waved off...and Mayorga was.
Was this a big win for Mosley? Who cares? All it did was give us a fight to watch, give Mosley a good workout and allow him to stay active and add his name to those of his contemporaries Trinidad and Delahoya, who've knocked out Mayorga too. Worth mention is that HBO commentator Jim Lampley suitably incredulously conveyed to the audience that one ringside judge named Pat Russell had Mayorga ahead on points at the time of the KO. This must have been the Don King judge. I say that not in jest, because there seems no reasonable way any observer could have had Mayorga ahead. I had 7 of 10 rounds for Mosley, with three of those Mosley rounds as close rounds...but 2 of the 3 scored for Mayorga were close too. Keep an eye on Russell, folks. That scorecard made no sense.
Let's look for Mayorga, at age 35 to get KO'd by a few more top level fighters before he fades into the sunset. Fans love him because he throws bombs and is willing to go out on his back. That said, another repeat or two of his hugging and complaining performance through the middle rounds of this fight and he'll stop becoming the opponent of choice to KO because no fighter wants to risk the headbutt cuts that Mayorga's bullrush hugging and butting routine is too likely to cause.
As for Sugar Shane, it's a good thing for him that he took Mayorga out. By taking him down with 3:01 to go in the fight, he went from "well, he couldn't take him out, his star is fading" to "he's still got it and can bring fans and excitement to any match." I think we'll see Margarito make a fight with Mosley in the next month or two. Berto may want him (and that's no slam dunk for Berto, by the way), but Margarito will see Mosley as a great marquee name to add to his record, not too great a risk and a good draw. The fight makes sense for Mosley too. Now that Margarito has Cotto's belt, Mosley can fight for the title again. Mosley lost to Cotto, so the odds are long on him beating Margarito, who himself beat Cotto...but that is a fight any realfightfan will tune in to see.
Stevie "two pound" Forbes has now apparently become the newest opponent for the elite and rising elite at 154. He's got a championship pedigree (safely twenty pounds south) and is committed but featherfisted. Andre Berto (22-0 coming in) was looking for a name to add to his resume. For the first few rounds, it looked like he was in a lot deeper than his camp had anticipated. Stevie countered well and his speed looked comparable to the lightning quick, but habitually inaccurate Berto. Even after the HBO team seemed to think Berto had taken control in the middle rounds, I didn't think Berto was landing almost any of his punches. He was also clinching and holding with his arms around Forbes' arms way too much considering that he was the faster, younger and stronger fighter. I had the fight for Forbes, four rounds to two, at the end of the sixth because he was counterpunching more cleanly and while Berto would throw combinations in lightning flurries, almost no punches in these barrages were landing. The crowd would ooh and aah, but Forbes was slipping, blocking and ducking, making Berto ineffective.
However, whether it was Berto's pressure, his greater strength (their physiques are a contrast, with Berto's bulging muscles and Forbes' sleek and undersized...for the weight...physique) or the opponent mentality that has begun to dog Forbes at least since the Delahoya fight, Forbes seemed to stop trying to win. Turning in a sparring partner's performance the last six rounds, Forbes seemed to go into survival mode and phone it in until the final bell. In this space, I decried the HBO announcing team after the Delahoya fight for calling Forbes out for his sparring partner mentality. Interestingly, they did it far less in this bout, but he deserved it more...at least after the sixth. At fight's end, I had it 116-112 and the official scorers had it unanimously 118-109, 118-109 and 116-111, all for Berto.
Where does Berto go from here? Well, Antonio Margarito was in the audience. If the Berto camp thinks he's ready for Margarito, I think they have another thing coming. By grabbing and fighting in spurts, as I've seen him do before, Berto is used to getting a chance not only to admire his work after his dramatic (but too often ineffectual) flurries, but to clinch and hold and catch his breath. Margarito will never allow that and is natural enough at the weight and aggressive enough to shoulder him off and rain down blows. If the Margarito who fought Cintron and Cotto shows up, Berto doesn't last six rounds. Jumping from Forbes to Margarito is a quantum leap to the highest echelon of the division. That said, if they make that fight I'll tune in...and while I'm virtually certain it ends badly for Berto...that's why they make 'em fight.
If I'm Berto's camp, I'd definitely go in next against a slightly lesser elite level fighter, if they're looking to step up. Of course, the problem for Berto is that there are so many elite level fighters in his division that every one is risky. Cintron? risky as heck...he can knock the iffy-chinned Berto out with one punch. Paul Williams? he will outwork Berto and if he doesn't get him in trouble, he'll outpoint him because Berto won't get his between-flurry rests. Miguel Cotto? If Cotto's spirit rebounds after being handed his first loss by Margarito, Cotto is the superior boxer with the heavier hands, notwithstanding Berto's speed advantage. Mosley? That's probably the guy I'd pick because while Shane still has some game at age 37 (see below), he's not as dangerous as he used to be and he's always seemed blown up to make this weight. He's a tough fight and a good win to add (by decision, probably), but not a great risk. But, as Shane implied after his own fight...he doesn't need Berto...unless he can't find anyone else to fight. That said, I bet Margarito was there not to watch Berto...but to get a fight with Sugar Shane.
To the main event. For a fight that started so promisingly and ended so satisfyingly, HBO commentator Larry Merchant's statement in round ten was fair: that is was a grueling rather than an entertaining fight. After Mayorga thrilled with his trademark wild headhunting in the opening frame, he lapsed into a hugging, clutching, complaining parody of his best days while Mosley struggled to time him and land between Mayorga's occasional bombs. With Mayorga ten pounds heavier on fight night, even when he had the fight well in hand, Mosley struggled to back Mayorga up. Meanwhile, the bullying wild tactics that elevated Mayorga to the stage in his career where he apparently remains the knockout opponent of choice for the aging elite made for a difficult fight to watch. Few punches land and when they do, we all hope they will chop Mayorga down. The sixth was almost a 10-8 round because this was clearly knockout territory for Mayorga (to BE knocked out). This is approximately when Delahoya took him out and apparently this is about where his aging elite level opponents figure him out and begin to tattoo him at will. Mosley indeed punched him cleanly in this head repeatedly in the last minute of the round and although he seemed to put him in trouble, he didn't put him down.
Interestingly, Mayorga seemed emboldened by the fact that he didn't get knocked out and had something of a resurgence in the following round, raising his arms triumphantly, apparently celebrating that he was still in the ring. The fight remained a mostly ugly hugfest until Mosley caught up to Mayorga with almost no time left in the 11th. I suspect that Mayorga, slowed from some clean shots (but not as many as you'd think) and mostly out of gas, just felt he'd put in a long enough night and went down. Don't get me wrong...Mosley KO'd him, but Mayorga didn't struggle to get up, instead dropping his head back to the mat with one second left in the round, forcing the referee to wave the fight off. When a fighter doesn't try to beat the bell, he ought to be waved off...and Mayorga was.
Was this a big win for Mosley? Who cares? All it did was give us a fight to watch, give Mosley a good workout and allow him to stay active and add his name to those of his contemporaries Trinidad and Delahoya, who've knocked out Mayorga too. Worth mention is that HBO commentator Jim Lampley suitably incredulously conveyed to the audience that one ringside judge named Pat Russell had Mayorga ahead on points at the time of the KO. This must have been the Don King judge. I say that not in jest, because there seems no reasonable way any observer could have had Mayorga ahead. I had 7 of 10 rounds for Mosley, with three of those Mosley rounds as close rounds...but 2 of the 3 scored for Mayorga were close too. Keep an eye on Russell, folks. That scorecard made no sense.
Let's look for Mayorga, at age 35 to get KO'd by a few more top level fighters before he fades into the sunset. Fans love him because he throws bombs and is willing to go out on his back. That said, another repeat or two of his hugging and complaining performance through the middle rounds of this fight and he'll stop becoming the opponent of choice to KO because no fighter wants to risk the headbutt cuts that Mayorga's bullrush hugging and butting routine is too likely to cause.
As for Sugar Shane, it's a good thing for him that he took Mayorga out. By taking him down with 3:01 to go in the fight, he went from "well, he couldn't take him out, his star is fading" to "he's still got it and can bring fans and excitement to any match." I think we'll see Margarito make a fight with Mosley in the next month or two. Berto may want him (and that's no slam dunk for Berto, by the way), but Margarito will see Mosley as a great marquee name to add to his record, not too great a risk and a good draw. The fight makes sense for Mosley too. Now that Margarito has Cotto's belt, Mosley can fight for the title again. Mosley lost to Cotto, so the odds are long on him beating Margarito, who himself beat Cotto...but that is a fight any realfightfan will tune in to see.

